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		<title>By: Mike C.</title>
		<link>http://valdodge.com/2009/07/04/custom-bike-trailer/#comment-106480</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did read the follow up posts late last night where you stated you went with 1/16th, but did not remeber them at 6:00 this a.m., so I asked a silly question - i.e., you already answered.  Too much time in-between!

Will likely go with the alum. wheels and the quick release as I may be putting it in the back of my van and it would slip under the seats with no problem.  Plus, gives me more options to store it in my garage.

Thank for the help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did read the follow up posts late last night where you stated you went with 1/16th, but did not remeber them at 6:00 this a.m., so I asked a silly question &#8211; i.e., you already answered.  Too much time in-between!</p>
<p>Will likely go with the alum. wheels and the quick release as I may be putting it in the back of my van and it would slip under the seats with no problem.  Plus, gives me more options to store it in my garage.</p>
<p>Thank for the help.</p>
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		<title>By: Val Dodge</title>
		<link>http://valdodge.com/2009/07/04/custom-bike-trailer/#comment-106479</link>
		<dc:creator>Val Dodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t think much about which wheels to get, but generally prefer spoked wheels to plastic wheels just because they can be trued and repaired, while plastic wheels are disposable. I don&#039;t think it would be a big deal either way for a trailer that isn&#039;t being used for long-distance touring.

The quick-release button is awesome once you&#039;ve used it, but you probably won&#039;t miss it if you&#039;ve never had it. The key question is how often you&#039;re going to be taking the wheels off. If you do it every day, you may appreciate the button release; the clevis pin retainer will do fine if you&#039;re not disassembling the trailer every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think much about which wheels to get, but generally prefer spoked wheels to plastic wheels just because they can be trued and repaired, while plastic wheels are disposable. I don&#8217;t think it would be a big deal either way for a trailer that isn&#8217;t being used for long-distance touring.</p>
<p>The quick-release button is awesome once you&#8217;ve used it, but you probably won&#8217;t miss it if you&#8217;ve never had it. The key question is how often you&#8217;re going to be taking the wheels off. If you do it every day, you may appreciate the button release; the clevis pin retainer will do fine if you&#8217;re not disassembling the trailer every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C.</title>
		<link>http://valdodge.com/2009/07/04/custom-bike-trailer/#comment-106478</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to know (i.e., about the angle brackets and the .062). Not sure why they spec the .062 in 21 foot and the .125 in 24, but your details on length used has helped me build a spreadsheet and play with the dimensions. The 24 foot length would allow me to go with 48 inch long, but I think it is overkill at .125.

On another note it looks like you went with the steel rims. Wike said I could swap to the plastic, or pay $45 to upgrade to aluminum. I know the steel will rust here in the humidity (Florida) so I will go with plastic or alum. The alum has a button quick connect and the others use a clevis pin. Have you any opinion on the plastic, vs. Aluminum and on the clevis pin?

Thank you for the quick reply and you have a nice site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to know (i.e., about the angle brackets and the .062). Not sure why they spec the .062 in 21 foot and the .125 in 24, but your details on length used has helped me build a spreadsheet and play with the dimensions. The 24 foot length would allow me to go with 48 inch long, but I think it is overkill at .125.</p>
<p>On another note it looks like you went with the steel rims. Wike said I could swap to the plastic, or pay $45 to upgrade to aluminum. I know the steel will rust here in the humidity (Florida) so I will go with plastic or alum. The alum has a button quick connect and the others use a clevis pin. Have you any opinion on the plastic, vs. Aluminum and on the clevis pin?</p>
<p>Thank you for the quick reply and you have a nice site.</p>
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		<title>By: Val Dodge</title>
		<link>http://valdodge.com/2009/07/04/custom-bike-trailer/#comment-106477</link>
		<dc:creator>Val Dodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used .062 (1/16&quot;) wall tubing. As I mentioned above, I tested a single 4 foot length supported at the ends by standing in the middle, and although it flexed slightly, it didn&#039;t buckle or permanently deform. I&#039;ve loaded more than 100 lb on my trailer with no problems and am confident that it could handle 150 lb distributed evenly across the bed. Whether I&#039;d actually want to pull that much weight is another question.

With my length of 48&quot;, there&#039;s a bit of wiggle room left for my three totes, but I don&#039;t think there&#039;s 6&quot;. If you have three totes already, place them together on the floor and measure around them to see how big your bed needs to be. When you&#039;re sizing, remember that the angled brackets will cut into your bed by about 2&quot; on each side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used .062 (1/16&#8243;) wall tubing. As I mentioned above, I tested a single 4 foot length supported at the ends by standing in the middle, and although it flexed slightly, it didn&#8217;t buckle or permanently deform. I&#8217;ve loaded more than 100 lb on my trailer with no problems and am confident that it could handle 150 lb distributed evenly across the bed. Whether I&#8217;d actually want to pull that much weight is another question.</p>
<p>With my length of 48&#8243;, there&#8217;s a bit of wiggle room left for my three totes, but I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s 6&#8243;. If you have three totes already, place them together on the floor and measure around them to see how big your bed needs to be. When you&#8217;re sizing, remember that the angled brackets will cut into your bed by about 2&#8243; on each side.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Crawford</title>
		<link>http://valdodge.com/2009/07/04/custom-bike-trailer/#comment-106476</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Val Dodge:

Did you use .062 wall or .125 wall on  the aluminum tubing.  Looks like the .062 is about half the weight (of course 1/16th inch vs. 1/8th inch).  I can get a 21 foot section of .062 locally and that would allow me to build a 24x42.  Do you see any trouble going to 42 as opposed to your 48?  Looks like it would still handle 3 totes (at 24x16 each).

Also, Wike said if you want to make the load limit of 150 lbs. to go with 1/8th on the axle and tow bar - at least, if not for all tubing.  However, that is double the price and double the weight, but I can get a 24 foot section allowing me to build the 48 inch long trailer!

Now you see why my question....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Val Dodge:</p>
<p>Did you use .062 wall or .125 wall on  the aluminum tubing.  Looks like the .062 is about half the weight (of course 1/16th inch vs. 1/8th inch).  I can get a 21 foot section of .062 locally and that would allow me to build a 24&#215;42.  Do you see any trouble going to 42 as opposed to your 48?  Looks like it would still handle 3 totes (at 24&#215;16 each).</p>
<p>Also, Wike said if you want to make the load limit of 150 lbs. to go with 1/8th on the axle and tow bar &#8211; at least, if not for all tubing.  However, that is double the price and double the weight, but I can get a 24 foot section allowing me to build the 48 inch long trailer!</p>
<p>Now you see why my question&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Val Dodge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val Dodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if they have the end caps at Metal Supermarkets; I got mine at Home Depot. They&#039;re usually in a little display cabinet near the rod and tubing display.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if they have the end caps at Metal Supermarkets; I got mine at Home Depot. They&#8217;re usually in a little display cabinet near the rod and tubing display.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://valdodge.com/2009/07/04/custom-bike-trailer/#comment-106474</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 06:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey val,

Thanks for the input, just ordered the kit. Still playing around with dimensions in my head but I think I will probably end up close to the same dimensions as yours. Soon as I settle, I&#039;ll make a trip to Metal Supermarket, same as you. Do they carry the endcaps for the tubing or did you purchase those somewhere else? Been looking around and can&#039;t seem to find them in the hardware stores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey val,</p>
<p>Thanks for the input, just ordered the kit. Still playing around with dimensions in my head but I think I will probably end up close to the same dimensions as yours. Soon as I settle, I&#8217;ll make a trip to Metal Supermarket, same as you. Do they carry the endcaps for the tubing or did you purchase those somewhere else? Been looking around and can&#8217;t seem to find them in the hardware stores.</p>
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		<title>By: Val Dodge</title>
		<link>http://valdodge.com/2009/07/04/custom-bike-trailer/#comment-106473</link>
		<dc:creator>Val Dodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gary,

The width I chose (2&#039;-long cross pieces) puts the trailer pretty much dead centre behind the back wheel. It may be a bit to one side or the other, but not enough to noticeably affect handling. Going any wider would put all of the extra width to the right side unless you bent the tow bar to re-centre the trailer.

I like the hitch; it&#039;s easy to use and has proven to be sturdy and practical. The only minor issue I have with it is that it can be difficult to line up the hitch pin if either the bike or the trailer is sitting at an angle. I was initially worried that the rubber wouldn&#039;t be sturdy enough for heavy loads, but it&#039;s been quite durable. The rubber piece also looks like it&#039;s user-replaceable if it does wear out. That said, I also have a Carry Freedom City trailer and really like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ucycle.com/products/accessories/chariot-ez-hitch&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ball-and-socket hitch design&lt;/a&gt; that it shares with Chariot trailers. I&#039;d be happy to use the single design for both trailers, but it&#039;s not a priority.

I get very little bounce when the trailer is empty, certainly when compared to a single-wheel trailer. With a two-wheeled trailer, I do experience more of the pull-push sensation when accelerating or braking. It can feel a bit awkward for a couple of seconds.

Putting the wheels all the way at the back will increase the tongue weight at the hitch and will affect handling under load. It&#039;ll also cause the trailer to track farther inside the rear wheel when you&#039;re turning, forcing you to make even wider turns. I can&#039;t think of any advantages to putting the wheels at the back of the trailer. I put mine just behind the centre point because it felt right in my mockups.

When I&#039;m loading the trailer, I just try to keep the weight roughly centred over the axle as much as possible, with a bit of weight on the tongue. Even when the trailer&#039;s fully loaded, I can still easily lift the tow bar up to the hitch. And as long as there&#039;s some weight on the tongue, it won&#039;t ever try to lift the back wheel of my bike off the ground or reduce traction. It&#039;s pretty much like a car trailer; you want about 10% of your load weight at the hitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gary,</p>
<p>The width I chose (2&#8242;-long cross pieces) puts the trailer pretty much dead centre behind the back wheel. It may be a bit to one side or the other, but not enough to noticeably affect handling. Going any wider would put all of the extra width to the right side unless you bent the tow bar to re-centre the trailer.</p>
<p>I like the hitch; it&#8217;s easy to use and has proven to be sturdy and practical. The only minor issue I have with it is that it can be difficult to line up the hitch pin if either the bike or the trailer is sitting at an angle. I was initially worried that the rubber wouldn&#8217;t be sturdy enough for heavy loads, but it&#8217;s been quite durable. The rubber piece also looks like it&#8217;s user-replaceable if it does wear out. That said, I also have a Carry Freedom City trailer and really like the <a href="http://ucycle.com/products/accessories/chariot-ez-hitch" rel="nofollow">ball-and-socket hitch design</a> that it shares with Chariot trailers. I&#8217;d be happy to use the single design for both trailers, but it&#8217;s not a priority.</p>
<p>I get very little bounce when the trailer is empty, certainly when compared to a single-wheel trailer. With a two-wheeled trailer, I do experience more of the pull-push sensation when accelerating or braking. It can feel a bit awkward for a couple of seconds.</p>
<p>Putting the wheels all the way at the back will increase the tongue weight at the hitch and will affect handling under load. It&#8217;ll also cause the trailer to track farther inside the rear wheel when you&#8217;re turning, forcing you to make even wider turns. I can&#8217;t think of any advantages to putting the wheels at the back of the trailer. I put mine just behind the centre point because it felt right in my mockups.</p>
<p>When I&#8217;m loading the trailer, I just try to keep the weight roughly centred over the axle as much as possible, with a bit of weight on the tongue. Even when the trailer&#8217;s fully loaded, I can still easily lift the tow bar up to the hitch. And as long as there&#8217;s some weight on the tongue, it won&#8217;t ever try to lift the back wheel of my bike off the ground or reduce traction. It&#8217;s pretty much like a car trailer; you want about 10% of your load weight at the hitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://valdodge.com/2009/07/04/custom-bike-trailer/#comment-106472</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Val,

I&#039;ve been trying to settle on a trailer for my bike for some time now and stumbled across your DIY kit from Wike. Really beautiful trailer! I think I will probably put some coin aside and order the kit soon. I was considering the BOB Yak, but I think I have settled on a two wheel trailer that can prefer multiple duties, as well as being able to manage two small dogs from time to time.

I have a few, questions I was hoping you could answer.

First, how does it &quot;centre&quot; on the bike (is it a little more to one side than the other)? I am assuming width on the design will play a factor in this due to how the arm attaches to the bike. I am considering making my trailer no wider than my handlebars on my bike.

Would you consider the hitch setup decent? or would you prefer a different hitch setup?

Does the trailer &quot;bounce&quot; when empty? Is the ride better with a load? Would you say there is an optimal load or load placement.

Also, I have seen another Wike kit with the wheels all the way at the back. Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Val,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to settle on a trailer for my bike for some time now and stumbled across your DIY kit from Wike. Really beautiful trailer! I think I will probably put some coin aside and order the kit soon. I was considering the BOB Yak, but I think I have settled on a two wheel trailer that can prefer multiple duties, as well as being able to manage two small dogs from time to time.</p>
<p>I have a few, questions I was hoping you could answer.</p>
<p>First, how does it &#8220;centre&#8221; on the bike (is it a little more to one side than the other)? I am assuming width on the design will play a factor in this due to how the arm attaches to the bike. I am considering making my trailer no wider than my handlebars on my bike.</p>
<p>Would you consider the hitch setup decent? or would you prefer a different hitch setup?</p>
<p>Does the trailer &#8220;bounce&#8221; when empty? Is the ride better with a load? Would you say there is an optimal load or load placement.</p>
<p>Also, I have seen another Wike kit with the wheels all the way at the back. Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Val Dodge</title>
		<link>http://valdodge.com/2009/07/04/custom-bike-trailer/#comment-106471</link>
		<dc:creator>Val Dodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 03:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either the tongue on the tow bar was just a shade too big or the ID on the tubing I bought was just a shade too small. After spending an hour pounding the two pieces together with a mallet and only getting the tongue about 2&quot; into the tube, I figured that adding a power tool into the equation would help. It took about 5 minutes with a belt sander to get the pieces to go together snugly but easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either the tongue on the tow bar was just a shade too big or the ID on the tubing I bought was just a shade too small. After spending an hour pounding the two pieces together with a mallet and only getting the tongue about 2&#8243; into the tube, I figured that adding a power tool into the equation would help. It took about 5 minutes with a belt sander to get the pieces to go together snugly but easily.</p>
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